***PLEASE SHARE THIS GROUP AND FORWARD TO FRIENDS.***
***I HAD TO SHUT OFF THE WALL BECAUSE A CHARMING YOUNG MAN LEFT US A MESSAGE ON IT TELLING US HE PLANNED TO GO OUT AND RAPE SOMEONE RIGHT NOW (HARDY HAR. HAR.) AND I CAN'T SIT HERE ALL DAY AND MONITOR, BUT IF YOU HAVE LINKS OR WHATEVER PLEASE SEND THEM IN.
Dear Jody Hill, Seth Rogen, Anna Faris, and all the assholes involved in greenlighting, producing, and marketing such utterly awful material:
We are not going to see "Observe and Report," and we want to make things clear. We are not refusing to see it because it isn't our type of movie, or because we are people of delicate sensibilities who cannot handle "edgy" humour. We are refusing to see it because after reading numerous reviews and interviews with all of you it is clear that NOT EVEN ONE OF YOU thought very carefully or even, hell, at all about the issues involved in making a scene in which someone not only screws an unconscious person, but such act is "made okay" (per Mr. Rogen) because she drunkenly murmured something in the middle of the act.
Now, it may very well be possible to "joke" about rape in a subversive manner. On this question the members of this group may have individual views. However, we are united in the idea that this is NOT IT.
Envelope and taboo-breaking humour has its place. But please, don't flatter yourself that such a disgusting and flippant attitude towards rape is anything "new" or "original." You are playing to the crappy attitudes of your target audience (i.e., men in their teenage years and twenties), and many of them make this kind of "joke" all the time, every day. You are more or less producing "humor" that shares a cleverness level with Rush Limbaugh's and Don Imus's. Congratulations.
If your aim was to prove that irredeemable assholes exist in the world, allow me to suggest that your point is really trite. Turn on the news. Just this week a couple of men killed their children.
We have sat through South Park, and we sat through Superbad, and we will sit through a hundred things in our lives that are based on what some of us would consider to be offensive humor, and in every single one of those cases thus far some glimmer of hope has been provided that such taboo-breakers were at the very least, SELF-AWARE about what they were doing, and that made a world of difference.
But in your case, all we see in your interviews is (a) a VERY confused attitude about what constitutes informed consent to sexual activity; and (b) an unwillingness to admit that this was all in shitty taste.
We are not advocating that you be censored by the government or anything so please don't hysterically cry First Amendment or "artist's prerogative." These issues are irrelevant. But we wanted you to know why we will not see your movie, and we wanted you to know it was based on your own statements and characterization of your work. There is really nothing to be done at this point to make this better other than your movie flopping dreadfully, and the only way we can cause that to happen is not to go see it. And to encourage our friends and family not to. And to write screeds you probably won't read anyway on Facebook.
But we're gonna do what we can.
Sincerely,
The Members of this Group
The articles/blog posts that inspired this group:
http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2009/04/does_seth_rogen_rape_anna _fari.html
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/sexist/2009/04/08/observe-and -reports-date-rape-apologism/
http://tigerbeatdown.blogspot.com/2009/04/um.html
http://www.avclub.com/articles/anna-faris,26245/
http://jezebel.com/5204177/is-date-rape-funny-seth-rogen-explains-it-a ll-for-you
P.S. If you disagree with this group, don't join it. Buy your ticket to the movie and go. That can be your vote on whether it's acceptable to be so goddamned flippant about rape.
ok, great.
about 99 percent of the time i don't care about groups on facebook championing a cause. if anything i find it slightly irritating--on the one hand, it seems a bit silly to raise awareness about your issue-du-jour the same way that the guy who wants to get 100,000 people to join his group so he can name his firstborn son "batman" does. on the other hand, there is the whole "everyone uses facebook" argument; it's likely that this group/cause(or the woman spearheading it) would have never entered my consciousness had she decided to voice her opinion through her blog or whatever. so good for her. AND DOUBLE GOOD FOR HER BECAUSE I FELT LIKE RESPONDING AND I NEVER FEEL LIKE RESPONDING AND I SENT HER THE FOLLOWING MESSAGE (totally unedited even though some editing would probably make it more readable but eff it cuz i keep it real):
I hope you read this, if only because I generally don't tend to respond to these kinds of things (causes spearheaded by a person or a group of people running a Facebook group). That said, the very existence of this group raised two questions in my mind:
1: It is my understanding that Warner Brothers released this movie with this scene intact--the tone of this scene was not revised and the scene was not cut down (in terms of length) in any way. Indeed, there was not even a conversation questioning the "appropriateness" of this scene (for widespread release) and the scripted version made it into the final release untouched. It's apparent from your diatribe in the description for your group that you're well aware of this. In terms of sending an effective message, do you feel that just not seeing *this movie* is somewhat lacking compared to boycotting Warner Bros movies in general?
2: I understand that some dickhead left an offensive message on the wall for your group which ended up being the catalyst for you disabling all wall messages. I'm wondering if it's constructive to take ANYTHING said by ANYONE seriously enough to cull discussion on the topic completely. I'm not going to pretend that it's worth arguing that one aim of Observer & Report is to promote awareness of rape and spark intelligent discourse on the subject, but I can't help but think that the idea rape is already something that is considered so dirty and shameful that it should never be discussed is a huge problem and that it is being propagated in (at least) some small way by the lack of any open discussion whatsoever on the page for your group.
I'm not the most eloquent person in the world and I'll be the first to admit that, but hopefully I've expressed myself well enough for you to make it this far. If that is the case then I'd like to thank you for taking the time to read this message; I'm sure it's just one out of the deluge of messages you're probably getting in response to your group. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on the above questions if you have time, if only so that my own personal, genuine curiosity might be satisfied.
Thanks again,
Mike
i'm hoping she responds because a) i really want to know what she thinks and b) i find the utter lack of conversation in her group irritating--at best, it's antithetical to the entire idea of organizing a group. and while i haven't seen the movie yet (and i intend to) i'm also entirely sure she hasn't either, and judging by her skewed descriptions of the scene itself compared to the actual events in the redband trailer, is almost certainly taking the scene out of context.
i'm strongly considering going to see this tonight instead of this weekend in order to comment further on this sooner rather than later.













